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At a time when West Indies cricket is going through inexorable turmoil, Shivnarine Chanderpaul, a
former number one ranked Test batsman, who has given close to two decades of unstincting service to the region’s premier sport, has been asked to retire from One- Day Internationals, citing poor form over the last 12 months…
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@Misologist
I agree and if he was dropped then Shiv has earned the right to decide with them. I would support Shiv's non selection to focus on Tests but on reflection for someone so clearly obsessed and hungry for the game he has been poorly treated.
Disgrace and shame on you fools at the WICB, it is what we have come to expect. Support Sammy's ego, an unworthy exceuse for a Captain, and give him the team around him that makes him feel his limited abilities are better than the others around him.
I certain will not be attending any of the Pakistan series because I do not think we are selecting our best players and I pay my money to see our best players.
One thing is very clear from this, West Indies cricket because of the incompetence of the board will RIP sooner than later. Chanderpaul has been a true great and the way he has been treated is absolute rubbish from the board.
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Tiger wil, invariably, have to retire but this incident shows how imbalanced, Gibson
Until West Indies no longer exist, we should have two selectors per main country and a Chairman in natural rotation. Leewards and Winwards will have two each.
President and CEO should have no longer term than 3 years at a time and the same rotation system should operate as their are talented people from all regions. If you cannot achive much in business and administration in three years then you should not have been there in the first place. THE CRICKETING STRATEGY IS MORE LONG TERM.
The core team should reamian like the Civil service but reviewable.
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@matchstick
Tiger will, invariably, have to retire but this incident shows how imbalanced, Gibson
Until West Indies no longer exist, we should have two selectors per main country and a Chairman in natural rotation. Leewards and Winwards will have two each.
President and CEO should have no longer term than 3 years at a time and the same rotation system should operate as there are talented people from all regions. If you cannot achieve much in business and administration in three years then you should not have been there in the first place. THE CRICKETING STRATEGY IS MORE LONG TERM.
The core team should remain like the Civil service but reviewable.
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Most Great players know when to go and usually go on their own accord.
Some have to be pushed.
Based on his returns over the past 12 months, his age and the need for the West Indies to rebuild the ODI and T20 side, Chanderpaul should have announced after the World Cup his retirement from ODIs and 2020s and continue playing test cricket only. It is not a sign of disrespect that he's now being pushed aside, no matter who you are, whether Brian Lara, IVA Richards or Sachin Tendulkar you will eventually have to leave the game of cricket behind and move on. Nobody is bigger than the game.
Otis Gibson is entirely correct, these players have no passion, no respect for West Indies cricket and none seem to have the expertise/tactical awareness to lead. I am a big fan Chris Gayle but I cant understand what he wants from West Indies cricket. Does he want to consistently one of the best batsman of his era or is he only in it for the bling ?
I listened to an interview last night with Andre Russel and heard him giving an honest assessment of his performances to date and his to need to improve dramatically. He spoke about being in 4 day mode for the just concluded match v CCC and said he needed to get ready for One Day cricket and listed what he needed to do, and I thought to myself "he sounds genuinely interested in improving his game". He didnt sound like Gayle or Sarwan who regularly talked about doing things differently while continually making the same mistakes over and over again. Gayle gets out the same way time and time again - clobbering some boundaries then OUT !. Sarwan is hit and miss and his batting in the WC was atrocious.
Everybody's cussing Gibson and the selectors, I wont. Gibson has been hired to do a job, he has worked with the team given to him and has made a honest assessment. Changes have been made and I am sure that Gayle and Sarwan have not been permanently dropped, they need to prove all over again that they are committed to West Indies cricket and prepared to take their responsibilities very seriously. It is not only Gibson that has complained about these players before - their attitudes, their lack of committment, but Bennett King, Roger Harper, Viv Richards, Clive Lloyd going all the way back to Rohan Kanhai. I am in total support of the Coach and the selectors in making hard decisions.
I agree that the team is hampered by a Captain that cannot make the starting XI on merit, but we will have him until at least the end of the current home series, I hope that Marlon Samuels, Lendl Simmons, Kirk Edwards, Andre Russell, Anthony Martin, Davendra Bishoo and others grasp the opportunities given to them with both hands and make the most of it. The more guys that get in and play well, the harder it will be to make a final XI and that must be good.
We are calling for blood over Gayle/Sarwan/Chanderpaul but these 3 have been here since 2000 (Chanderpaul even longer) and how many games have we won with them ?? how much have they improved ?? how many mistakes they made over the years, they still making now?
i’ll put this plain n simple…fu*k u Gibson n Co. U telling the guy wit such a great record to retire n u’re keeping sammy n thomas in the team? blatant abuse of power..
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I agree with your point mostly. I just have a problem with how this was done to Shiv. You don't treat a veteran of 15+ years like this. Not to mention the fact that he still has a lot to teach younger players about valuing there wicket and playing with soft hands.
Honestly the last time we played Pakistan was on a decent wicket (some would have called it spin friendly but I disagree) and half the batsmen had no clue which way the ball was turning. Shiv's 44 though slow was the only stand between us and a below 70 all out score.
In fact, not only should Shiv keep playing ODIs I would pull Badman Nash in the odi squad as well.
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Well written for one normally full of expletives but I totally disagree. Ottis the Ape should have said to Shiv ok we will give you this home series and if it does not work out then let us talk again to assess how you feature in future T20 and ODIs.
Also why drop certain players only for the first two ODIs? What is the rationale? I will answer it simply, Gayle is in it for what Gayle can get for himself and he will never be one of the gratest batsmen of his generation, never.
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i’ll put this plain n simple…fu*k u Gibson n Co. U telling the guy wit such a great record to retire n u’re keeping sammy n thomas in the team? blatant abuse of power..[quote][i]
I agrre with brsw and that was putting diplomatically IMO.
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Shiv was right in saying that he was never given a chance to settle in the batting order.
His success was at #5 and as soon as Ottis came in he started messing around with this.
Shiv @5
Nash @6
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Gayle opening were the only things which were really working with our batting order.
Rather than using this as a start and building it up from there he wanted to start from scratch. That is my biggest qualm with the man.
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